CNLP 162: Jarrid Wilson on Depression, Anxiety and Suicide and the Church’s Response To Mental Health

At age 15, Jarrid Wilson told a youth group leader he was depressed, and essentially felt dismissed. By age 19, the silence felt like it was killing him and he started googling painless ways to die.

A decade later, at 29, he’s in a very different place, having battled depression, anxiety and suicidal thoughts. We discuss his story and why mental health is so hard to talk about—and deal with—in the church.

Welcome to Episode 162 of the podcast.

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Love Is Oxygen

LiveChat at Anthem of Hope for people struggling with depression/anxiety/suicide

QPR Training

US Suicide Prevention Lifeline (1-800-273-8255)

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3 Insights from This Episode

1. If you are suffering alone with anxiety and depression you must find community

God doesn’t want you to suffer in silence. He doesn’t want you to suffer at all. The moment you admit your hurt God can begin the healing process, but first you have to be willing to take down the wall you’re hiding behind.

You cannot find relief from this on your own. Connecting with God through time, prayer and scripture combined with pastoral care, counseling and community will help relieve the burden.

If you want to chat with someone about your struggles right now, click here to go to Anthem of Hope’s live chat line.

2. The church can to be a support to those in need of hope simply by acknowledging the issue

Mental health isn’t just a personal issue. It’s a spiritual issue and the church must be available to support people struggling with anxiety and depression.  If the church is to be a hope in the world to those who feel hopeless more must done to remove the stigma of depression. It shouldn’t take a ton of effort. Simply acknowledging the issue and being available with love and support can save lives.

Check out  QPR Training for more great information.

3. There are responses to avoid when someone opens up to you about their inner struggles

When a person with depression admits what he’s feeling inside, he’s sharing what is 100% truth to him and looking for a safe place to be heard.

Don’t question, downplay or minimize someone’s personal feelings and never assume suicidal thoughts aren’t serious. Sometimes all the person needs in that moment is someone to listen and affirm that he is loved and his life matters.

Quotes from This Episode

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Next Episode: Erwin McManus

Erwin McManus talks about his diagnosis of cancer, facing fear and how to deal with criticism.

In this wide-ranging and fascinating conversation, he also talks about creating a church where atheists get baptized and people from widely divergent views and walks of life find a home.

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  1. Jennifer Korell on April 2, 2018 at 12:43 pm

    I have a problem with depression and insomnia I wake up early and have problems falling asleep. Jennifer

  2. Anne on October 26, 2017 at 11:36 pm

    Hi Carey, I listen to your podcast via Apple Podcasts and it says that this podcast is unavailable? Would appreciate some help if possible, I also get this message consistently with your episodes Bonus 015 and ep 138 (bob and Maria goff).
    Love your work- thanks for all you do to encourage us

  3. Jon Stallings on October 18, 2017 at 2:32 pm

    Thanks Carey for interviewing Jarrid, This is an important issue in our society. I pastor a small church I can’t tell you how many people I come in contact each month either at the church or with someone one of our members knows personally.

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