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Episode 814: Networking Without the Awkward: Michael Bungay Stanier on Better 1:1s and Building a Path No One Else Is Walking
Listen, subscribe, and leave a review on: Networking feels fake because most people do it wrong. Michael Bungay Stanier has a better way. In this conversation, MBS breaks down how to connect without the cringe, the seven questions you need…
Episode 813: Church Trends Update: Your Congregation Is Being Discipled 49 Hours a Week (And Not By You), The Wrong Convo About AI, Women Leaving, and the Anti-Celebrity Pastor
Listen, subscribe, and leave a review on: Six months into 2026, four church trends deserve a closer look. Algorithms are discipling your congregation 49 hours a week. AI’s biggest threat isn’t prompts—it’s disruption on a scale the church isn’t ready…
Episode 812: Creativity Is the Church’s Lost Superpower: Al Gordon on How Stress and Algorithms Are Killing Your Imagination and How to Unlock Creativity in Your Team
Listen, subscribe, and leave a review on: Most leaders don’t think of themselves as creative. Al Gordon says that’s the lie keeping you stuck. Al, founder of Renaissance, lead pastor of SAINT in East London, talks about why creativity is…
Episode 811: The Myth of 10,000 Hours: David Epstein on How Creativity Actually Works and Why Constraints Set You Free
Listen, subscribe, and leave a review on: New York Times bestselling author David Epstein talks about why Malcolm Gladwell’s 10000-hour rule isn’t accurate, how he and Malcolm became friends, how creativity actually works (what you can learn from Dr. Seuss),…
Episode 810: The End of Anxiety? Joshua Becker on Spiritual Minimalism and When Enough is Enough
Listen, subscribe, and leave a review on: Former pastor, minimalist and New York Times bestselling author Joshua Becker returns to the podcast to discuss why he left ministry to pursue a fresh calling, how minimalism can usher in an end…
Episode 809: Get Past Broke Thinking In Your Church: The Lean Startup’s Eric Reis on When To Take A Risk and Why Harder is Easier
Listen, subscribe, and leave a review on: New York Times bestselling author Eric Ries applies his start up philosophy to churches. We cover how to know when to take a risk, how to get past broke thinking in your church,…
Episode 808: Why Leadership Is Designed to Kill You: Nicole Martin on Leading Christianity Today in a Divided, Rapidly Changing World
Listen, subscribe, and leave a review on: Nicole Martin made history as Christianity Today’s first Black female CEO — and took the hits that come with it. In this conversation: the backlash, Billy Graham’s original vision, how the magazine is…
Episode 807: How to Make Your Life Burnout-Proof: Burnout 20 Years Later, Part 2
Listen, subscribe, and leave a review on: Twenty years after burnout almost took him out, Carey is back with Part 2—the recovery playbook. You don’t need to get back to normal. Normal is what burned you out. In this solo…
Episode 806: I Was Almost Ministry Road Kill: Burnout 20 Years Later, Part 1
Listen, subscribe, and leave a review on: Twenty years ago this month, Carey almost became ministry road kill. After 11 years of 30%+ annual growth, he burned out—hard. In Part 1 of this solo episode, Carey shares 5 honest insights…
Episode 805: The Reason Your Church Isn’t Multiplying and Fresh Trends in Church Planting With Dave Ferguson
Listen, subscribe, and leave a review on: The vast majority of churches are plateaued or declining, and Exponential CEO Dave Ferguson explains why most churches never grow, let alone multiply. Plus, he shares the latest trends in church planting in…
Episode 804: How to De-escalate an Angry Church and Leading a Ministry You Didn’t Start with Rich Villodas
Listen, subscribe, and leave a review on: Carey caught up with Rich backstage at Exponential to talk about the learnable skills that keep leaders and congregations non-anxious in an angry age, and the unique challenges and gifting needed to lead…
Episode 803: Mass-Marketed Sin, Political Warfare, and Why Your Best Staff Keep Leaving with Joel Muddamalle
Listen, subscribe, and leave a review on: Joel Muddamalle is a theologian who thinks harder about spiritual warfare than almost anyone in the church today. In this conversation: how sin got a mass-marketing strategy, why your devices are a primary…