CNLP 085: Whit George on How to Work with Family in Ministry, Taking Over Leadership, and Learning How to Lead in A Brand New Role

Church on the Move in Tulsa, Oklahoma, is known for innovation. It’s also about to undergo a significant leadership transition.

Today I talk with the driving force behind much of the creative innovation at the church in the last decade, Whit George, who is the Executive Pastor and one-day Senior Pastor of COTM, as he prepares to succeed his father, Willie George.

Welcome to Episode 85 of the Podcast.




Guest Links: Whit George

Seeds Conference


Church on the Move

Whit on Twitter 

Links Mentioned in this Episode

Josh Gagnon; Episode 61

Andy Stanley; Episode 1

10 Reasons Even Committed Church Attenders Are Attending Church Less Often

Chris Vacher

Tom and Todd Mullins

Haydn Shaw; Episode 69

Bill Hybels

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3 Things You Can Do Right Away

Whit worked his way from being the church landscaper to being in senior leadership, but his advancement was inherited from his dad. When you follow in the footsteps of someone else, how do you make your own path, and what does that transition look like? Whit tells us about the struggles he encountered and how he worked through them.

  1. You will get frustrated. “It didn’t matter how good my dad did it,” Whit said. “I was always going to be frustrated.” Frustration is part of human nature. Look at Adam and Eve, and look at Peter and Judas. They were two different situations, neither were happy, and there was a great deal of vexation toward indignities. The reality is that it doesn’t matter if you were working at the perfect church or your leader is perfect, because of sin, you’re going to get frustrated.
  2. Embrace differences. Stop being frustrated, embrace change and enjoy it. Whit said God spoke to him. “If everything was done the way I wanted it done, there would be no need for me.” So often we lose patience with how something is said or done, and we don’t stop to analyze the heart behind it. In your prayer, start telling God thank you for what’s meant to be in your life. Turn your frustration into thankfulness. When you’re thankful, it’s hard to be angry.
  3. Be patient. Focus on the things you can control, leverage them and let God do the rest. It easy to hold on to control in the midst of transition because you want to see progress, but when you’re praying into your faith, don’t ask for authority, take responsibility. As leaders, we lose patience with how long it takes for things to happen, so be mindful of God’s timing.

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CNLP 085: Whit George on How to Work with Family in Ministry, Taking Over Leadership, and Learning How to Lead in A Brand New Role

1 Comment

  1. Jon Perrin on April 28, 2016 at 10:44 pm

    This was an outstanding podcast filled with some exceptional insight for a young leader. His insights on frustration are truly eye-opening. I listened to this one twice! Thanks so much for sharing your leadership conversations with us. We are better for it!

    I’m sad I won’t be able to make it to ReThink Leadership. Such is life. At least there is the streaming option 🙂

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