CNLP 477: Jennie Allen on the Pain and Promise of Friendship, What to Do When You Naturally Resist Community and How to Find Your People

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NYT bestselling author, Jennie Allen, opens up about the struggle she’s had with friendships over the years, what to do when you naturally resist community, and explains how to find people you can trust and do life with.

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Insights From Jennie

1. We’re hardwired to live in close-knit networks of friends and family

Within the scope of human history, our generation is one of the few since the Industrial Revolution that doesn’t live in a village-like existence. In the past, you depended on your tribe for community and survival.

The modern world, in contrast, has made us more autonomous and safer, but it’s also stripped us of the existential necessity for close-knit community. But though we may not need each for survival, we still have an emotional, psychological and spiritual need for close friends and fellowship.

2. Everyone is probably lonelier than you think

Heavily-curated social media profiles will lead you to assume that “everyone is hanging out without you,” but the truth of the matter is that everyone you know is probably struggling with loneliness and isolation—especially in the past couple of years.

Unfortunately, the ways in which Western society is designed doesn’t lend itself to a life-sustaining community. 80% of the world lives in a village-like environment, and the bulk of modern society is living a lifestyle at odds with our “programming.”

3. Good friendships hinge on a combination of 5 key factors

In her new book, Find Your People, Jennie Allen breaks down the five practical ingredients you need to have the type of friends you’ve always longed for. According to Jennie, most people need at least 3-4 of these factors for a friendship to be successful and life-giving.

The five ingredients include:

  1. Proximity—the geographic closeness two individuals live from each other
  2. Vulnerability—the ability to be open and honest with one another
  3. Accountability—the willingness to lovingly call each other out
  4. Mission—a shared calling or philosophy for living
  5. Consistency—the commitment to stay when life becomes difficult

Quotes from Episode 477

At our core, we are communal. It's not something we do, it's something we are. @JennieAllen Click To TweetPeople are the best parts of life, and they're the worst parts of life. @JennieAllen Click To TweetWe've gotten too good at boundaries and not good enough at good friendships. @JennieAllen Click To TweetYou will not heal without people in your life. You will not heal alone in your head. @JennieAllen Click To TweetI've learned to say out loud the thing I fear. @JennieAllen Click To TweetEverybody listening needs to come to terms with the fact that if they are not talking about how they feel, even if it feels small, then they are increasingly getting more unhealthy by the minute. @JennieAllen Click To Tweet

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Carey Nieuwhof is a best-selling leadership author, speaker, podcaster, former attorney, and church planter. He hosts one of today’s most influential leadership podcasts, and his online content is accessed by leaders over 1.5 million times a month. He speaks to leaders around the world about leadership, change, and personal growth.