CNLP 194: Jerry Hurley on Keys to Scaling Your Ministry, Leaving Corporate to Help Build Life Church and What Makes Working With Millennials Work

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Jerry Hurley joined the staff at Life Church in 1998, when it was a single campus and running about 600 people. He’s been on the senior leadership team as it’s grown to over 80,000 attenders and 29 locations today.

Jerry shares his top insights on scale, leaving the corporate world and recruiting staff and volunteers. Plus, he tells the story of how he challenged Craig Groeschel to make a change that Craig calls one of the most important in his early ministry.

Welcome to Episode 194 of the podcastListen and access the show notes below or search for the Carey Nieuwhof Leadership Podcast on iTunes or wherever you get your podcasts and listen for free.

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3 Insights from This Episode

1. Strong systems and a small mindset grow organizations.

Over the years, Jerry Hurley has excelled at keeping an incredibly large church from maxing out on growth. Here are his two key things to keep in mind when considering the potential of your organization:

1. Think small and nimble.
No matter the size of your church or business, thinking small is the perspective that will motivate you to grow. The expressions of what you do everyday will follow your mindset.
2. Systems are meant to serve the organization.
Do the systems you have in place serve your organization or has your team gotten off track by serving the systems? When an administration serves the systems staff get frustrated, innovators leave, and the organization declines. Continually refine the intentions behind how your team should function. A fluid and fresh system that serves the organization offers the healthiest environment for staff to work well and grow the mission.

2. God’s interested in who we are, not what we do.

If you feel God calling you toward something, there’s no reason to fight it or fear what could be on the other side of that big decision. Delaying the call only causes you to miss out on the blessings God wants to give you now.

Sometimes obeying the call doesn’t even mean moving into new territory. It could simply be that God’s wanting you to do more for Him with the platform you already have. Not everyone called into ministry is called into it full-time. He’s way more interested in who you are than what you do.

3. Great volunteers want invited to the table.

There are so many people who want to volunteer their time to be a part of something bigger than themselves. Often in only requires an invitation to the table and thoughtful preparation for their arrival. Jerry lists his approach to maintaining a full and productive volunteer community that provides efficiency for the team:

Have meaningful things for them to do.

Connect what they do to eternal life change.

Make sure they realize that they are making a difference.

Lead them the same way you lead your team.

Trust them to do as many things as you possibly can allow them to do.

Quotes from This Episode

We can get too focused on the what we do, but God's interested in who we are. Click To Tweet God doesn't waste experiences. Click To Tweet When you come to a conclusion, walk away and never look back. Click To Tweet Make rules that create an environment your best are going to thrive in. Click To Tweet

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Carey Nieuwhof is a best-selling leadership author, speaker, podcaster, former attorney, and church planter. He hosts one of today’s most influential leadership podcasts, and his online content is accessed by leaders over 1.5 million times a month. He speaks to leaders around the world about leadership, change, and personal growth.