CNLP 558: John Lee Dumas on How to Work Less and Make More Money, The #1 Way to Make an Impact Online Today, And How He Grew Entrepreneur On Fire to 140 Million Downloads

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Entrepreneurs-on-Fire host John Lee Dumas talks about how he built a multi-million dollar business working just 15 hours a week, the key to his workflow, the #1 way to make an impact online if you were starting today, and how he grew the Entrepreneurs On Fire podcast to over 140 million downloads.

Welcome to Episode 558 of the podcast. Listen and access the show notes below or search for the Carey Nieuwhof Leadership Podcast on Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts and listen for free.


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Pastors, I know how difficult it can be to keep your sermons feeling fresh and relevant, especially when you’re preaching week after week.

Whether you’re hitting writers block or in a rush trying to put the finishing touches on your sermon, things don’t always go as planned.

To help, I’ve created a 10-step preaching cheat sheet. After decades of preaching, I simplified my sermon preparation into a series of steps and reminders that help me ensure my sermons are engaging, relevant, and memorable.

It’s easy to use, just 10 simple prompts—with examples—that you can start using as early as this Sunday.

To start transforming your preaching visit and get your copy for free. Again that’s to download your copy of the Preaching Cheat Sheet for free.


Gloo knows that engagement is crucial for guiding people through their faith journeys

They also know how hard church leaders work to engage their people, and that communication tools like email don’t always work, no matter how great the subject line. 

That’s why Gloo is committed to ensuring that all churches have access to this powerful technology. You’re going to want to check this out.

Thinking about adding texting to your communication strategy? Consider this:

  1. Texting has a 98% open rate
  2. And response times average 90 seconds.

Compared to 20% for email, and it’s easy to see why texting is so effective for connecting with your community.

With Gloo’s incredible platform, you can:

  1. Share important announcements
  2. Build a stronger prayer culture
  3. Welcome new visitors
  4. Keep people engaged between Sundays
  5. And so much more…right from your computer

Did I mention it’s free? That’s right. It takes less than 5 minutes to set up your church’s custom number and to send your first text. No credit card required. Ever.

Don’t miss out on this sensational opportunity to revolutionize how your church communicates. 

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Lead With Confidence and Clarity. Grow Your Church.

As leaders, we tend to see the challenges and roadblocks before other people do.

We've all been there before...

  • You need to refresh your vision for the future but know that change will be an issue for that person.
  • You're overstaffed (or missing a key role) and can't find the right person to fill the role.
  • You aren't reaching enough new people even though you've tried everything that's working for other churches.
  • You can see the issue but aren't confident in what to do about it.

And with another Sunday morning coming up, it'll just have to wait until next week when you have a few minutes to figure it out.

Now ask yourself this:

What would it feel like to have those answers at your fingertips 24/7?

Whether it's reaching new people, improving your preaching, increasing volunteers, refreshing your vision, engaging your staff, or any of the countless challenges we face as church leaders, The Art of Leadership Academy will equip you to lead your church with confidence and clarity.

Between comprehensive church leadership courses, live coaching calls, staff and volunteer training resources, and direct access to a private online community of senior-level church leaders, you'll get the exact insights and answers that fuel your church for growth.

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Carey Nieuwhof

Carey Nieuwhof is a best-selling leadership author, speaker, podcaster, former attorney, and church planter. He hosts one of today’s most influential leadership podcasts, and his online content is accessed by leaders over 1.5 million times a month. He speaks to leaders around the world about leadership, change, and personal growth.