The False Debate Between Online and In-Person Church (How To Plan for An Uncertain Future)

So it’s been a year now since pretty much every church got online courtesy of the pandemic.

As the world moves slowly but surely into the post-pandemic era, there are a lot of questions about what will happen to future in-person church.

The return to church has been anything but easy for churches that are reopened, and hard even for churches that are located in areas that are almost wide open.

A Lifeway Research survey shows that in January 2021,

31% of churches are still reporting less than 50% of their January 2020 attendance

37% are hovering between 50%-70% and 30% are between 70%-100%

Only 2% report seeing more than 100% of their attendance a year ago.

It’s easy to imagine that all of this is going to reverse the moment society is ‘open’ again, but for a number of reasons that’s unlikely.

First, the reopening of society is by every account going to be gradual and staged.

Second, even when laws allow everything to be wide open (as in Texas), people often behave differently than the law allows them. While some people will run into the future unrestrained and with no limits, others will remain cautious for a while to come.

But even that doesn’t explain what’s about to happen next.

Perhaps the deepest threat to in-person attendance comes from a cultural possibility I’ll say more about below, that we might be entering into a relatively selfish me-centered behavior that might relegate churches even further to the sidelines than they were pre-pandemic. And yes, I know, we were already a selfish culture.

I’m not saying this is good. I am saying for the reasons below, it may be true.

As my successor at Connexus Church, Jeff Brodie, told me recently, the number one vision casting challenge is that right now people feel an isolation pain point that they won’t feel in 12 months.

The assumption is they’ll fill it with church attendance in a building once everything reopens. Not so fast.

That also leads us directly to the false debate.

The False Debate Part 1: Think About Online Dating

So what’s the false debate?

Well, search the comments on this site or almost any other church-related social feed and you’ll see many leaders arguing that people don’t want to just do church online.

Those who say that are in part wrong, and in part correct.

It’s nuanced. Let me explain.

The same surveys that show in-person attendance is likely to struggle in the future also show that only a sliver of the population wants to only access church online.

That makes sense.

Think about online dating. About 40% of couples who date these days meet online via a dating app or site.  Not shocking.

But couples who meet online don’t stay online. You’ve never met a couple who said “We’ve been married for six years but we’ve never met in person…”

No, both dating and church online lead to in-real-life.

So those who say church online can’t meet the needs of people long term are largely correct. We’re built for human connection.

So you would think, then, that the return to church would be automatic.

That’s where it breaks down.

The False Debate Part 2: In-Building v. In-Person

It’s true that real ministry happens best in-person. Theologically, relationally and experientially, people need people. The church is a community…in-person community.

But here’s the flawed assumption:  in-person ministry shouldn’t be restricted to in-building ministry.

To date, too many church leaders have assumed that the only viable option for in-person gathering happens in a building owned (or leased) by the church.

If you define in-person ministry as experiences that have to happen in a building owned by the church, you set yourself up for diminished mission.

In fact, if the size of your vision shrinks to the size of a room you can fill, you’ve missed the church’s mission.

Sure, there will always be people who gather in a central facility.

It was done that way for years because it was a highly practical, sensible option. Historically, you’ve needed a building so you can assemble at the same time in the same place for a common experience. For centuries, a building was a sensible way to deliver that. It was hard to gather dozens or hundreds of people for a service.

Then the internet happened.

Moving into the post-pandemic era, churches can now gather people in person in a wide variety of ways: micro-gatherings, micro-campuses, home gatherings…all uniting the distributed in-person gatherings through technology.

In my post on 2021 Disruptive Church Trends, many of the trends deal directly with this dynamic and you can learn more there  (there’s also a free PDF Team Application Guide you can use as well).

In the future, don’t limit your understanding of in-person gatherings to in-facility gatherings; the majority of attenders and perhaps your most engaged people may not be in the auditorium.

If you expand your definition of gathering, it’s much easier to genuinely expand your mission.

To drill down further on why this is so crucial, consider these three things.

1. The Culture Has Become More Post-Modern

Crisis is an accelerator, and as Barna has shown, 1 in 5 church-going adults stopped attending church altogether in 2020.

I’m guessing America and many part of the West became even more post-modern and post-Christian in the last year. Trends that may have taken a decade to cement got accelerated as people were decoupled from their habits.

Among the many characteristics of post-Christian, post-modern spirituality, three stand out when it comes to future attendance trends. Post-modern spirituality is:

  • self-directed
  • anti-institutional; and
  • selective

In other words, people will pick and choose what they want to do. That goes from choosing a favorite preacher to listen to, to deciding to watch from home or on the go, and even (you’ve already seen this) tenets of the faith they are inclined to embrace and tenets they’re inclined not to.

I am not arguing this is good. I’m just saying, as a Canadian who’s ministered in a post-Christian culture for decades, it’s very real.

None of this means it’s over for the church. Far from it. In fact, there’s more opportunity for authentic Christianity than ever.

But if you’re relying on old methods to renew your mission, you’re setting yourself up for disappointment.

Churches that are ready to change their methods in the post-pandemic era will seize incredible opportunities to advance their mission.

And churches that won’t may (as we’ve said here a few times) end up being like malls in the age of Amazon, just waiting  for people to return.

If you change, you’ll advance your mission. And if you don’t, you likely won’t.

If you want more on this, here are five characteristics of churches that will be in decline five years from now.

2. There May Be A Coiled-Spring of Self-Centered Behavior Ahead Of Us

We were already living a pretty self-centered life as a culture before COVID. As the HBO documentary Fake Famous so clearly points out, we’re really into ourselves and self-gratification.

I wonder if we’re heading into an even more self-centered few years ahead of us as people try to make up for whatever they missed in the last year and a bit: vacations, freedom, time away, and whatever else disappeared from their life.

One leader who leads a church in a pretty much fully open US state told me last week that the 20-30% of people who are not coming back to his re-opened church are still going to theaters, restaurants and other events. But for some reason, they’re just skipping church because “they’re not ready.”

My question was, are they just not ready or just too polite to say they’re no longer interested? Maybe there are many other intriguing things to do with their time…

There is a lot of pent-up angst and longing in all of us.

And so much of the pandemic so far has been baffling. The economic and health impact of the pandemic has been so uneven and in many cases, unjust.

Despite the massive disruption, layoffs, and decimated industries and cities, housing prices and the stock market have soared. People have been spending on home upgrades, bikes, boats, Peletons, and many other things.  Despite all the spending, in North America, personal savings rates are at all-time highs.

If you look at history, rather than dealing with the inequities and problems we face, often after a period of deep pain, people often engage in escapism and pursue fun.

The Roaring 20s followed the First World War and Spanish flu. Jazz music, movie theaters, the automobile, flappers, and night clubs dominated the Great Gatsby era.

The 50s baby boom, suburban explosion, and prosperity followed the horrors of the Second World War and Great Depression.

Is something like that around the corner for us? It’s too early to tell, but it’s not too early to start preparing.

Doing the authentic work of the church, being active in the local communities that don’t have the economic freedom to escape, and being online to mobilize people around the mission matter even more.

If the 2020s end up being like the 1920s, the church needs a better strategy than loud music, more haze and “don’t miss this series.”

The culture needs an alternative to itself, not an echo of itself.

You can’t reach a secular culture by being more secular. You can reach it by becoming more authentic.

So be more authentic.

3. Hybrid Church Will Simply Match Reality: Life Is Already a SlipStream Between Digital and In-Real-Life

None of this is really new.

For years now before COVID, almost every human was living in a slipstream between digital and in-real-life interactions.

You text your friend one second, pivot to a YouTube video the next to get a recipe for dinner, and then meet your family in the kitchen to cut some vegetables for the meal.

For years now, you’ve moved seamlessly between the digital and the real.

Church will be that way in the future too, which is why the hybrid church—offering both digital and physical ministry—is here to stay.

People will be in the building one week, watching solo online the next, and the third gathering with some friends in a home or (better yet) serving in the community to be the church.

Standing in a building resenting everyone who didn’t show up is no way to reach people. So don’t be that leader.

And if we are moving into some years where people are heading off to the woods, the mountains, the ocean, tropical islands, or their back yard, digital will help you stay connected with them and call them back to a deeper level of sacrifice and commitment to others.

If you really do believe that the essence of Christianity is to be the church, not just go to church, then embracing a hybrid model of church only makes sense.

On the other hand, if you limit your digital investment in the hope you can fill a room, that’s a whole other, likely much harder, conversation.

A Few Other Thoughts

Before we get to the comments (I would love to know what you think), a few other thoughts.

Having a robust in-person and digital ministry is going to be hard. And no one has really figured the model out yet.

But start here: resource your online presence with the same intensity and resources that you would if you were launching a physical location.

The surprise of course, is that effective digital ministry is much cheaper than launching a physical location, but still. Staff it like you mean it.

Staffing, of course, also involves volunteers.

And because no one has cracked the code yet on micro-gatherings, being a distributed church, or even figuring out what the format online versus for live services will be in the future, feel free to experiment (Mark Clark and I discuss some possibilities here).

Take some pressure off yourself and try some things. Some will connect, some won’t. That’s what innovation is all about.

When it comes to ministry that happens in the facility moving forward, its highest value will likely be for young families who want in-person connection for their kids, student ministry where gathering in person is of high value, people who prefer church in a facility, and of course, new people. You have a whole host of people who are now part of your church online but have never seen or experienced your church in person.

This may likely be the new core of regular attenders for the next few years. I could be wrong, but it seems plausible.

Finally, remember that being the local church is a great thing. 85% of you reading this lead a church of 200 attenders or less. Let that encourage you.

Preachers whose messages are viewed hundreds of thousands of times (sometimes by your people) don’t know your people or your city. But you do.

Along with your team, love them, serve them, reach them.

Nobody should be able to out-local the local church.

How Are You Planning?

What are you expecting as you move into the future, and how are you planning for it?

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There's a false debate happening between in-person and online church. The future rides on it more than you think. Here's why.


  1. Rev. Heather on March 9, 2021 at 1:35 pm

    I’ve been pondering verses like Amos 5:21-24,
    21I hate, I despise your festivals, and I take no delight in your solemn assemblies. 22Even though you offer me your burnt offerings and grain offerings, I will not accept them; and the offerings of well-being of your fatted animals I will not look upon. 23Take away from me the noise of your songs; I will not listen to the melody of your harps. 24But let justice roll down like waters, and righteousness like an everflowing stream.

    My church is in an area where we still need to worship online, have been since last March, and we are doing pretty well. We’re reaching new people online, giving is up, and we’re engaging with our community through various service projects and relief efforts. Our only in-person groups are doing acts of neighbor-love: making sack lunches for the houseless, delivering food, collecting items for those in need, handing out Christmas boxes to local families, etc.

    I’m not worried about how many people come back to worship, because what God is showing me through this pandemic is that when we do justice, love mercy, and walk humbly with God, our community sees Jesus through us. Then we get to talk about our why. Our why is Jesus.

    • Carey Nieuwhof on March 9, 2021 at 2:25 pm

      Love hearing this!

    • Stacy Knapp on March 10, 2021 at 9:16 am

      YES, Rev. Heather! My small group co-facilitator and I were discussing how much we like your term, “neighbor-love,” because that would be a concise descriptive word for us, too. We believe God is speaking through you and we are diving in to that passage in Amos. THANK YOU for the reminder that our why is Jesus!

    • Louise on March 14, 2021 at 2:07 pm

      Yes. Thank you. Wise words.

  2. Bob Albing on March 9, 2021 at 12:49 pm

    My little church stopped charging “rent” for our garden beds in our community garden in 2020. We ended up with more gardeners; only 3 of the 30 were from the church. And more donations came in than any of the past 10 years. It has been fun to meet folks who would never step foot in our building but love to garden and really appreciated what we were doing.

    • Carey Nieuwhof on March 9, 2021 at 2:26 pm

      That’s outstanding!

  3. Nathan on March 8, 2021 at 8:55 pm

    One concept I’ve been thinking through is what you shared about a percentage of people not coming back to church, but still going out in public for activities, events and pleasure.

    I’m thinking, as a church leader, we shouldn’t be upset about people not wanting to come back and still doing activities, but instead, we should look at what we are doing, and pursuing, as a church and ask ourselves if we are providing a place people don’t want to miss out on.

    Asking ourselves the question, “Why don’t people want to come back?” Is okay to ask, but only if we are willing to take partial responsibility. We should be doing our best to create a space, environment and atmosphere people fee they can’t miss out on.

    • Stacy Knapp on March 9, 2021 at 9:17 am

      “…okay to ask, but only if we are willing to take partial responsibility.”

      Goodness that “poked” my heart…in a good way. Taking responsibility of our part is quite challenging and the key is to grow closer to Jesus and reflect His humility.

      Thank you for sharing that!

    • Carey Nieuwhof on March 9, 2021 at 2:27 pm

      Love that perspective.

  4. Rev. Jim Lewis, PhD on March 8, 2021 at 2:37 pm

    We are a small church doing hybrid services, struggling to do much else besides. Thought we were making some ground with a “messy church” monthly event meeting primarily outside, but even that team is now in effect saying “seems we’re leaving our church folk behind (those who are making little or no effort to reach out), how can we incorporate them? Should we even continue with “messy” church?”

    Frustrations mounting… not sure how to plan from here!

  5. Jon Myers on March 8, 2021 at 2:15 pm

    Concerns me that the exhortation in Hebrews 10:25 is being left out of this post and comment section. The church is for gathering in worship, stirring one another to love and good works and for encouragement in person (I would be hard pressed to believe the writer of Hebrews could have envisioned meeting digitally). And we are called to gather “ALL THE MORE as we see the day approaching.” IMHO, giving ground to the enemy by neglecting to meet together is the worst thing the church can do. We cannot let fear of a pandemic or post-modernism to change what God has expressly commanded us to do. Carey, I read your posts often and I like your writing. This post is filled with great survey data but lacks any scriptural references. Why is that?

    • Bob Wiseman on March 8, 2021 at 5:52 pm

      Scripture is a pesky nuisance to these “leadership gurus” and they often refuse to bring it up because it challenges the voice they want to amplify: their own.

      It’s really that simple.

    • Paul Gastineau on March 8, 2021 at 8:35 pm

      As one who has lead a small group (18 people) by zoom for the last year, I have consistently used Hebrews 10:24-25 to encourage us to spur each other on to good deeds. I would suggest we are actually much closer as a group than we ever were when we met at the church building. We have done many service projects together, we have cared for class members that had covid, it has been amazing. We are afraid to go back to the building for fear we will lose the closeness that we have developed. I don’t think the author of Hebrews ever envisioned a church building. I suspect he imagined homes, which is exactly what we have done, when we met in person.

      • Stacy Knapp on March 8, 2021 at 9:37 pm

        YES! I’ve been leading a small group by Zoom for almost two years. Our church was started intentionally as a global community for those who travel (RVers, truckers, touring musicians, traveling businesspeople, flight attendant, etc.) or in a life stage that prevents them from attending a church on the weekends. We watch the recording of the service together and there is discussion times built in to the sermon. Essentially we are discipling one another. We are a close-knit group encouraging each other to grow deeper in our personal relationship with God and to serve our neighborhood communities. We have people from 4 states in our group with most of us never meeting in person. Ha!

        I’m curious to know if you’ve had the discussion to maintain the current format.

        • Paul Gastineau on March 9, 2021 at 8:31 am

          Oh yes, we have that discussion frequently. The biggest challenge has been keeping everyone together. Some think the vaccine is the new safety net, others don’t. Some want to wear masks, others don’t, some want the in person worship, others like the current format. I call everyone once per week, just to let them know I care about them. I think that, more than anything has kept us together. I have several concerns about going back to the church building: 1) Can we really put the toothpaste back in the tube? Did we go through this last year for nothing? What will change when we get back? We’ve grown much closer, how do we keep that? 2) There are other small groups that continued to meet at the building. By any comparison, ours has been much more successful, we are at 90% of what we were prior to the pandemic, no other class is more than 50%. Some of the other classes argue about masks all the time, I do not require masks, but allow them. If we go back, there are going to be people from other classes that don’t like masks leave and come to our group. That is now how we want to grow, nor do I want to be disruptive to the other classes. 3) What happens with the potential for future persecution of Jesus followers? Will home groups and zoom groups be more evangelical and supportive, as mentioned in Hebrews 10:24-25? I think so. But, no easy answer. I like the way you have included people from 4 states. I have invited people from Eastern Europe (where I go on mission trips) to attend our zoom classes, and it has helped spur them over there. Lots and lots of benefit to what you are doing. It can certainly increase connectedness in this culture way more than trying to meet in a building, sing a few songs, listen to a guy talk, then go home. Ours is very discussion oriented, I send out the lesson, along with thought provoking questions prior to our meetings. By the way, I am the youngest male in our group, at 65. I do have a few wives that are younger, but this is working very well.

          • Stacy Knapp on March 12, 2021 at 12:02 pm

            Oh Paul! I gotta hand it to your group of mostly 65+ for making the necessary adjustments to continue “meeting together.” I’ve been praying for you and your church as you navigate these nuances. Well I’m the second oldest in my group and I’m 45. I never thought about the fact that my group spans three generations and now that I think more about this, we have 4 ethnicities inc two languages as well. I guess we are a small reflection of the great multitude too great to count described in Revelation 7:9 😄

            Bless you, my brother!

    • Chris on March 9, 2021 at 3:36 pm

      I would also be hard pressed to believe the writer of Hebrews could have envisioned the large buildings we do church in these days. If online and social media are what this generation leans into, then the church needs to find a way to communicate through these avenues as a tool to bring people together. The church should and can evolve! Yes, Scripture supports coming together and however that looks as a move in the direction of discipleship and community, is accomplishing the goal of the church. The church has never been a building.

  6. Chuck on March 8, 2021 at 11:32 am

    Two words: Tru dat. But these truths were true before Covid. The Church would be having these same struggles if the Pandemic had never happened; Covid just made us take a huge magnifying glass to them. We all need to stop blaming these struggles on external circumstances and instead focus on the behaviors that Covid served to call the church out on: our pride, our penchant for self-gratification, our insensitivity to the needs of others that prevails until we ourselves feel the burn of those same needs. This article and others like it point out these and others

    What do we the church plan to do, the change, to grow?
    Is it easier to mourn and whine about how Covid kicked our collective tails or do we reform? Rethink? Revive?

    Dear church: stop lamenting and start repenting!

  7. Cecil Cogswell on March 8, 2021 at 10:18 am

    I have pastored for over 30 years in our traditional model of practicing church and I believe the pandemic is a blessing in disguise as we have the opportunity to rediscover authenticity in being the church. We have evolved to the highest level of superficial christianity possible (my opinion in a generic sense) and it’s time for a new reformation to refocus our ecclesiology. Excellent points Carey and you can be assured that we will go “kicking and screaming” into our new church future. I for one am ready to switch to the new school of church. Im retired now so it’s easier to switch my thinking as I’m not responsible for an existing program and building. My heart deeply empathizes with pastors but let’s be brave and launch into our new opportunities.

  8. David Nelson on March 8, 2021 at 9:53 am

    Our church is moving toward and hybrid model. One of our goals pre-pandemic was to increase our online presence. Blessedly with the pandemic, we were able to move quickly to that space. We have had staged increase in number of people in our church especially with more people being vaccinated.

    There are some members who want it to return to the “way it was” and others who have lost interest. We continue to offer a variety of mechanisms for discipleship and mission. Finally, our finances were stable in the past year and we ended the year positively. We pray that everyone continue to connect to their community. Thank you Carey for your ongoing commitment to leaders and to Christ.

    • Stacy Knapp on March 8, 2021 at 10:04 am

      “We continue to offer a variety of mechanisms for discipleship and mission.”

      I really appreciate this! Getting out of my bubble has opened my eyes to see people who need other “mechanisms,” so THANK YOU!

    • Carey Nieuwhof on March 8, 2021 at 3:07 pm

      Absolutely! Won’t be slowing down anytime soon.

  9. Bob Wiseman on March 8, 2021 at 9:53 am

    Online presence being the “dating site” is true, in many senses. It’s going to be difficult for new people to find your church or get that first impression if you’re not online. I don’t think anyone is arguing that such isn’t true.

    The question that should be asked is: how sustainable is this? COVID has taught a lot of people, especially those of us 30 & under, that the internet kinda sucks. In the last 12 months, nearly ALL of my friends have dropped all of their social media profiles. The kids in my youth group, outside Snapchat, TikTok, YouTube, and gaming aren’t online, or at least in the ways the church is “going online”. And you’d be hard-pressed to find anyone under 30 going out of their way to watch church online.

    I would be willing to make a wager: 95% of all the online church “attendees” are existing church members, collectively. And I think I’m low-balling that number.

    So you’ve got a model that few young people–churched or otherwise–are watching and *likely* VERY FEW nonchurched–old or young–are watching.

    So the sustainability only exists so long as people are staying home. And if people are staying home, I’d say the sustainability of your ministry isn’t going to be that strong, either.

    This isn’t saying that people aren’t online. Or that they aren’t using social media (although all of those are trending down). It’s just saying that the correlation between internet accessors and online church attendees isn’t what you think it is.

    For what it’s worth, I’m not saying having an online presence is bad. I don’t think anyone is. I’m just saying that I think it’s importance is being vastly overstated and that there’s going to a huge bust when things return back to normal in society.

    • . on March 8, 2021 at 2:15 pm

      These are interesting observations and good points. My initial thoughts are maybe in-person & online “church” doesn’t have to replicate the traditional format of weekly lecture with musical sing-along.

      So much can be done online and in-person to facilitate human interaction, such as home groups, prayer meetings, social/dinner gatherings, chats, etc

    • David Nelson on March 12, 2021 at 9:22 am

      Excellent points Bob. Valid as well. In our instance, those watching live are regular attendees. Where we get excited in our Walk is the number that watch the following week. In our midsized church, having 40 online is a good session. The following week, we’ll have up to 500 view from around the country. To us, that boost provides a vehicle for reaching those who don’t know Jesus.

  10. Michael Andrews on March 8, 2021 at 9:51 am

    For years leaders have been looking for ways to break the “Sunday morning – Sunday night – Wednesday night” (with a corresponding shrinkage as you go through the week” status quo – looking for a way to break out of the mold and lead the church body into “through-the-week engagement” (or what we once called our daily walk with God.)

    Well, the mold has been broken, the status quo has been upset!

    Thank you, Carey, for providing a glimpse and fodder for brainstorming towards a true daily walk with God for every Christian…and many more looking for what fills the void after their personal status quo or model has been upended in the same tempest.

  11. Tom Rath on March 8, 2021 at 6:19 am

    Hey pastors maybe if you modelled Christ’s love for each of your members rather than thinking about „your ministry“ things would get to where they should be. Test question do you consider pastoring primarily as an activity to enroll warm bodies in your chosen plans or do you invest yourself in living and building up each person soul that crosses your path. Have you apologized to anyone of your congregation for your human errors.

  12. Juan Carrasco on March 8, 2021 at 12:51 am

    Once again thank you all for your excellent service at bringing these super insightful realities to the masses.
    It truly is a fascinating design this position to be specifically engaged in a sovereign vocation with the living God.
    The power of salvation in us enables us to set our minds on those things which are above, wow! The power of Gods love in which covers a multitude of sins keeps us in perfect peace.
    And yes as you mentioned.. I agree that History repeats itself; as it should since we are creatures of habit. So yes the word authentic comes to mind to upset the norm or the mundane.. I have found in my simply working out my salvation with fear and trembling, and taking every thought captive against the word of God that a certain oddity is manifested..
    And it causes those with ears to hear see and genuine spirit!
    Its almost like folks can notice my faith in a way that causes them to be curious? They will all have watched and monitored my character for years only to notice that this person genuinely trusts in what he believes!
    I am convinced that just like our LORD never changes and that His plans are not to harm us.. that if God be for us! Folks this is a glorious season for us to like you stated reach out to the poorer communities as His workmanship in Christ Jesus!
    Let’s make the most out of everyday that the lord has made! We should be able to come out of our retirement out of our poor definition of entitlement and contribute! It is better to give then to receive.
    And so many of us are being destroyed for lack of knowledge. Fruit! Gifts! Talents! And we are squandering them, all on excuses and and self justification. It’s not cool. On to us has been given every spiritual blessing folks, let’s take a serious inventory here, that we may be careful that we may not suppress the truth in unrightousness.
    Even Jesus said He did not come to be served? We must humble ourselves and simply be honest with ourselves before God.. that we might reveal to ourselves and Him that we might be suffering from being faint hearted.. that we have each gone our own way. And ask the Holy to show us how to pray that we may be used of God.
    I believe that every community can begin fresh and new if we take ourselves out of the center and simply walk by faith and not by sight. I believe this is why the apostle Paul was granted so much favor (grace) because he understood Himself He was constantly honest with himself before Holy God. It was by light of the knowledge of Christ and Him crucified that he was guilty of being the chief of sinners yet at the same time forgiven. And this held his heart captive constantly against this oh so great salvation.
    Let’s be used of God to remind parents young and old the way that they should go.. so that the children who are designed to follow? Even though their sin nature will war against the spirit? They must come to know the fear of God.

    • Stacy Knapp on March 8, 2021 at 9:48 am

      “Take inventory”
      “Humble ourselves”
      “Honest with ourselves before God”

      These phrases are like a neon sign as I read your post! Truly we must attend to our “inner life.”

  13. Stacy Knapp on March 7, 2021 at 5:17 pm

    We’ve been a strictly interactive online church for over 2 years now. We exist for those of us who have hurdles that prevent us from attending a church service in a building: traveling musicians/crew, working on weekends, the “overchurched,” those with “church hurt,” social/physical/mental/spiritual reasons. We didn’t have much adjustment to make when the pandemic hit. Truly ALL PRAISE TO GOD for equipping us for it! It’s imperfect and we face challenges because we continue to learn as we go relying on the word of God and the work of Holy Spirit.

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