CNLP 519: Nona Jones on Why Pastors are More Insecure than Business Leaders, Killing Comparison, Brazilian Butt Lifts, and Overcoming Childhood Trauma

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Meta’s Nona Jones returns to the podcast to talk about why pastors are more insecure than business leaders, how to kill comparison and overcome insecurity, how she overcame childhood trauma, Brazilian butt lifts, and why success is ever enough to satisfy you.

Welcome to Episode 519 of the podcast. Listen and access the show notes below or search for the Carey Nieuwhof Leadership Podcast on Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts and listen for free.

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I want to also tell you about a ministry that I have loved for years, and that’s Compassion International.

Compassion is an incredible organization whose goal is to release children from poverty in Jesus’ name.

They currently serve over 2 million children ​and their families in some of the most poverty-stricken areas of the world and here is my favorite part: ​All of this is happening in local churches.

Compassion is all about equipping the local church so every single child is cared for by leaders in their community.

As a pastor, I found Compassion to be a strategic part of our global missions strategy. And so, as a church, we incorporated Compassion into our focus on Guatemala.

Compassion made it easy for everyone in our church to put their faith in action by caring for a child in need. I would encourage any pastor listening to learn more about Compassion.

You can help equip local churches around the world while seeing your church grow in the process. Visit to learn how.

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Carey Nieuwhof is a best-selling leadership author, speaker, podcaster, former attorney, and church planter. He hosts one of today’s most influential leadership podcasts, and his online content is accessed by leaders over 1.5 million times a month. He speaks to leaders around the world about leadership, change, and personal growth.