Patrick Lencioni returns to the podcast to talk about how he changed his mind about leading virtual teams and hosting virtual events as a result of the crisis, how virtual can be more personal and why so many leaders abdicated their responsibilities.
Plus, he offers his view on how preachers and church leaders can do a better job at communicating in a rapidly changing world.
Welcome to Episode 348 of the podcast. Listen and access the show notes below or search for the Carey Nieuwhof Leadership Podcast on Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts and listen for free.
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3 INSIGHTS FROM PATRICK
1. Pre-pandemic, your need for near-perfection was slowing you down
As with nearly every organization, Pat’s company had to make some major pivots when the Coronavirus pandemic hit. They completed projects that normally would have taken 6 months in just 10 days, and they saw great results. What does this mean for Pat and his team moving forward? And what does it mean for you?
If you’re a focused and driven leader, you probably spend a lot of time making sure your products are as good as they can be before you put them on the market. If you’re a preacher, you want every sermon to be excellent. If you’re posting on social media, every caption needs to be perfect. This pandemic has shown that the things we produce don’t need to be perfect, they just need to be helpful and timely.
2. Your team is actually MORE focused on Zoom calls than in-person meetings
Before COVID, the argument against remote meetings was that people are not as focused at home as they are in the office. Since the pandemic hit, and Pat’s whole team began working remotely, he’s noticed the exact opposite effect. His team is more focused now than ever before.
Carey’s and Pat’s theory is that when you’re forced to look at yourself and everyone else in the meeting straight in the eye, you need to be more focused than if you were just sitting in a room having a meeting. It’s more appropriate to stare out the window in a regular meeting rather than on a Zoom call.
3. If you have the wrong motive, you’ll never be a good leader
Pat sees two motives that cause people to get into leadership. One is healthy, and one is not. The first (and most common) reason that people get put into leadership is that they think it will get them something. Whether its status, influence, money, or prestige, many leaders get into leadership because it will help them—selfishly, visually or physically. If you have this first motive, you will almost never become a great leader.
The second motive is that they see leadership as a responsibility and a sacrifice. Leaders with the right motive see their call of leadership as a call to sacrifice for and serve their people. Only when leaders are driven by this motive can they become great leaders. So, why are you in leadership?
Quotes from Episode 348
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