CNLP 222: Patrick Lencioni on Saying No To Steve Jobs, Motivating Millennial Workers and The Three Qualities You Need to Look for To Create The Ideal Team

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Patrick Lencioni has written some of the benchmark business books of this generation.

In this conversation, he explains how saying no to Steve Jobs moved his life in a whole new direction. He unpacks the keys to motivating young leaders and why he thinks Millennials are not lazy. He also explains the three essential qualities you should look for to create the ideal team.

Welcome to Episode 222 of the podcastListen and access the show notes below or search for the Carey Nieuwhof Leadership Podcast on Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts and listen for free.

@PatrickLencioni | Patrick’s Books |  The Table Group

The Tragedy of a Pathological Leader

The Ideal Team Player Self-Assessment

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3 Insights from Patrick Lencioni

1. The biggest problem for most leaders is understanding and embracing humility 

Servant leadership has become a popular term over the years, but the root of it is so important for leaders to understand and live out. When a leader truly believes that he or she is no more important than the lowest level personnel in the organization, when that is fully embraced, it’s everything.

Pride is the root of all sin. It just is. And it’s so easy to get caught up in the trappings of pride. When a leader is doing it all for pride, or even just struggling with that, it’s tough for the organization to remain healthy. Humility is the antidote. Humility is the key to sustaining a healthy working environment and it’s the leader who sets the standard for the entire team.

2. Meetings should be enjoyed, not loathed

Meetings are critical, wonderful and necessary. Participants should be looking forward to them, not surviving them. The problem is that a majority of leaders don’t know how to structure a meeting that sets a team up to win.

The trick to fun meetings is making them effective. Avoid piling everything into the agenda at once. There’s no reason to throw tactical, strategic, longterm, short term, administrative and developmental topics all together. Odds are more than a few people will leave frustrated, because all of those conversations aren’t meant to be in the same setting. Different contexts call for different conversations. Separate those out and everything gets easier. When like-minded people are trying to do good together amazing things can happen – like actually enjoying a meeting.

3. Ideal team players are humble, hungry and smart

What are the underlying virtues necessary to be a team player? Whether building a team oriented company or evaluating what you personally bring to the table, possessing these 3 qualities will take things to the next level:

HUMBLE – Ideal team players lack excessive ego or concerns about status, are quick to point out the contributions of others and slow to seek attention for their own, share credit, emphasize team over self and define success collectively rather than individually.
HUNGRY – Ideal team players are always looking for more things to do, learn, and responsibility to take on. They’re self-motivated, diligent and constantly thinking about the next step or opportunity.
SMART – Ideal team players have common sense about people, know what is happening in a group situation and how to deal with others in the most effective way, have good judgment and intuition around the subtleties of group dynamics and the impact of their words and actions.
Take the free assessment to find out your strengths and evaluate where you have room to grow as a team player.

Quotes from Episode 222

The vast majority of organizations have a reason why they exist, they just need to connect to it. @patricklencioni Click To Tweet

Volunteers work harder in a church that's properly motivated than the most highly paid athlete or executive in a less idealistic one. @patricklencioni Click To Tweet

When we don't have conflict in our churches around issues, it inevitably ferments into conflict around people. @patricklencioni Click To Tweet

People in churches get hurt more than in any other organization not because people who work in churches are mean, but because they mistakenly confuse niceness for love. @patricklencioni Click To Tweet

Humility for me springs from faith. Otherwise, I'm just full of myself. @cnieuwhof Click To Tweet

Nobody wants to work for me and nobody wants to work for you. They want to work for something bigger than me and bigger than you. And if you can find that, you can motivate people. @cnieuwhof Click To Tweet

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Carey Nieuwhof is a best-selling leadership author, speaker, podcaster, former attorney, and church planter. He hosts one of today’s most influential leadership podcasts, and his online content is accessed by leaders over 1.5 million times a month. He speaks to leaders around the world about leadership, change, and personal growth.