CNLP 078: Perry Noble on How He’s Radically Changed His Approach to Leadership

Driven, controlling people have a leadership style that will take their organizations in a certain direction, but almost always cap it at a smaller size than they’d like.

Perry Noble talks about how he stopped being so controlling and learned to lead with love and how you can too.

Welcome to Episode 78 of the podcast.


Guest Links: Perry Noble


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3 Things You Can Do Right Away

Are you leading people to control, or are you leading to influence? Perry Noble discusses how he’s changed his leadership style by having more patience, showing mercy and guiding through love.

  1. Find opportunity in every crisis.  This will take time. Reports show that people, especially millennials, are turning away from the church. If fewer people are going, that means there are more people to reach. Figure out what it’s gonna take to reach them. If they’re not going to church, figure out why, and fix it. The buffer in every crisis is love, and Perry says one of the greatest things to happen to him is letting go of control and leveraging influence.
  2. Don’t exercise control; develop influence. As your church gets bigger, you start to realize you’re losing control. When we control things, we know we have influence. If you’re in control, you lead, but that’s not the best way to lead. Hitler had control, but he’s not the guy any of us want to become. People join an organization, but they “quit people” because control only gets you so far.
  3. Be intentional about the mood you create when you walk in the room. When a leader steps into a room, they either create joy or fear. There’s not middle ground. Leading with love requires us to adapt the mindset that love always assumes the best, and giving people the benefit of the doubt builds equity with people. Driven people have an issue with leading with love. But why does our drive seem to be opposed to love? We’ll tell ourselves that what you did was best for them. When the volume of your voice goes up, your influence goes down. People will let you lead them, but when you drive them, they’ll walk away from you.

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CNLP 078: Perry Noble on How He’s Radically Changed His Approach to Leadership

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