CNLP 074: The Future Church, Reaching Millennials and Our Biggest Mistakes in Leadership. A Candid Conversation with Geoff Surratt, Brad Lomenick and Carey Nieuwhof

Sometimes the best conversations cover a range of topics, and that’s exactly what happens as Carey Nieuwhof sits down backstage with Geoff Surratt and Brad Lomenick to talk about the future of the church, who’s really reaching the next generation and ask each leader what their biggest mistakes in leadership were.

While this backstage conversation can speak to you right now, there’s more.

You’re invited to have conversations like this one at the Rethink Leadership event in Atlanta on April 27-29th. It’s a special gathering for senior leaders hosted by senior leaders.

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But in the meantime, get ready to hear what Geoff, Brad and Carey share about Millennials, the future church and their leadership mistakes.

Welcome to Episode 74 of the Podcast.

reaching millennials


Guest Links from this Episode

Carey Nieuwhof

Geoff Surratt; Episode 40

Brad Lomenick; Episode 55


Blinc Consulting

Ravi Zacharias; Episode 53

Brad on Twitter

Geoff on Twitter

Links Mentioned in this Episode

Perry Noble; Episode 2

John Stickl; Episode 29

Dave Travis from Leadership Network

3 Things You Can Do Right Away

If you’re going to be affective in the future, what’s it going to take? Carey, Geoff and Brad talk about what they’ve learned in their experience in leadership, take a look at what they would have done differently and break down how to reach the under 35 crowd.

  1. Encourage collaboration among generations. Not only do millennials want to be part of the conversation, they want to be part of the decision-making. While younger leaders have been undermined in the past, more experienced leaders are taking the time to notice what millennials have to offer to the longevity of their ministries. Sometimes this is difficult for senior leaders because they think they’re the only ones with good ideas.
  2. Be aware of the pace of change. Technology has enhanced the pace of change, and it’s easy to get caught up in what’s popular in the moment. But trends can be deceiving, so don’t confuse today’s methods with the future of your mission.
  3. Never stop asking questions. Curious leaders have an appetite to want to learn more from others, and they’re not shy about asking questions, even if they’re looking to the younger generation for guidance. Maintain a humble heart, and find confidence in knowing that you don’t always have to have a good answer, but you can always ask a good question.

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Next Episode: Jonathan Pearson

So what are the strengths and weaknesses of leaders under 35? Jonathan Pearson has written a book for Millennials and, at age 29, leads a campus of 1400 for a large church. He offers some honest, humble insights about his generation and how to work with them.

CNLP 074: The Future Church, Reaching Millennials and Our Biggest Mistakes in Leadership. A Candid Conversation with Geoff Surratt, Brad Lomenick and Carey Nieuwhof


  1. Isaac Vanderhout on February 9, 2016 at 1:57 am

    Hi Carey, I really appreciate your content & passion for sharing great conversations & ideas. There hasn’t been an episode yet that hasn’t encouraged, challenged, and/or taught me something new.

    Just a heads up: there doesn’t seem to be a podcast player for this episode on this page. However, it is available on the main /podcast page along with all the other episodes.

    Also, is it possible to make the links in the podcast notes in the player on the main /podcast page clickable? If it’s not, might I suggest including the full url for the episode, ie., somewhere in the notes? Maybe right after ‘Welcome to Episode XX of the Podcast.’? This should make at least that url clickable. Hope that makes sense. 🙂

    • Carey Nieuwhof on February 9, 2016 at 5:55 am

      Thanks Isaac that was my bad. All fixed now! And that’s a great suggestion about the main page on my blog. I think that’s an auto generated page so I don’t know how to do that. But I’ll dig in and ask. 🙂

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