CNLP 067: Chris Brown on Pastors, Personal Finances and Creating Margin

Money. It’s a problem if you have it and if you don’t.

Today, I sit down with Chris Brown, who each week speaks to millions of people through radio and his podcasts about getting through the struggle of money.

We dig into why church leaders often have such a strange relationship with money.

Welcome to Episode 67 of the Podcast.


Guest Links: Chris Brown

The Leadership Momentum Podcast

Chris Brown’s True Stewardship

Chris Brown on Twitter

Chris Brown on Facebook


Links Mentioned in this Episode

Wayne Cordova; Episode 66

Dave Ramsey

Financial Peace University

Dave Stone on The Leadership Momentum Podcast

Bobby Gruenewald

Casey Graham; Episode 3

3 Things You Can Do Right Away

Talking about money is about as comfortable as talking about politics. No one wants to do it, and it’s easy to shy away from the subject. Chris Brown talks about how to turn those tense moments into productive conversations.

1. You need to bring up money. It’s an uncomfortable subject, and if you’re a church pastor, you either like money too much, or you’re afraid of it. There’s a stigma with pastors bringing up money because of the history of misuse and financial struggle, but we need to overcome the awkward conversations because it’s not just about money. It’s about living what you’re speaking, because at the end of the day, if we’re not being vulnerable about it, we’re not giving ourselves the opportunity to learn and grow.

2. Be vulnerable with the appropriate audience. While there is strength in being vulnerable, you still need to maintain boundaries with financial information. Find someone you trust. Maybe it’s your church leadership, your elders or a mentor. When you’re being forthcoming with a sensitive subject, it’s not useful to talk to everyone, but talking to the right people will help you move forward.

3. You must have a vision. If your finances lack vision, implement a budget and come up with an investment plan. A lot of people look at what they’ve spent after they spend it, and people don’t realize how much money they’re wasting until they look at what’s going out vs. what’s coming in. The quickest way to give yourself a raise it to sit down and work on a budget. When you implement a solid financial strategy, and your modeling it, it will be easier for your congregation to follow your example, and it will put them in a healthier place financially to fund the church’s mission.

Quotes from Chris

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Next Episode: Joe Sangl

This month, we’re helping you get ready for the new year.  Today we looked at personal finance. Next week, Joe Sangl and I have an honest conversation about how to increase givings at your church, why people don’t give and even how bi-vocational pastors can think differently about earning income.

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  1. Foster Alwyn on January 7, 2019 at 11:45 am

    This episode is key for me. Carey spoke about helping their kids pay for college without loans. I’d love to hear more about that to help me plan for the future with my kids.

  2. Gary Davis on December 25, 2015 at 10:29 am

    Quote, “1. You need to bring up money. It’s an uncomfortable subject, and if you’re a church pastor, you either like money too much, or you’re afraid of it.”

    Unquote, (hhmmmmmmmm.)

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