Some church leaders love pastoral care, others don’t. But everyone needs it.

Author, speaker and former New Spring Pastoral Care Coordinator Beth Marshall explains how handling pastoral care well can make or break the growth of your church and your health as a leader.

Welcome to Episode 58 of the Podcast.



Guest Links

Grief Survivor

Beth Marshall on Facebook

Beth Marshall on Twitter

A Time To Heal: A Grief Journal

Grief Survivor: 28 Steps Toward Hope and Healing

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Links Mentioned in this Episode

Perry Noble; Episode 2 

New Spring Church

The Billy Graham Christian Worker’s Handbook: A Topical Guide with Biblical Answers to the Urgent Concerns of Our Day

North Point Church

How I Recovered From Burnout: 12 Keys to Getting Back

8 Reasons Most Churches Never Break the 200 Attendance Mark

Some New (And Better) Rules For Your Next Vacation

How to Break Growth Barriers: Capturing Overlooked Opportunities for Church Growth by Carl F. George and Warren Bird

The Orange Tour

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Things You Can Do Right Away

Have you ever wondered why 90% of churches never reach the 200 attendance mark? Beth Marshall tells us how to promote the growth of your ministry by scaling pastoral care.

  1. Change your cell phone number. When too many have your cell phone number, you’re compromising boundaries. Even if you turn it off, you’ll feel obligated to return missed calls, check voice mails and respond to texts. You’ll never feel like you’ll have a moment of genuine peace if too many people are able to contact you at their convenience.
  2. Reallocate pastoral responsibilities. Depending on the size of your church, top leaders will not be able to go to every funeral or officiate every wedding. It’s unrealistic, so utilize your volunteers and develop leadership within small groups. Volunteers have the capacity to care for others in time of need. Those will be people who bring dinner, who will be there when you have a death in the family. Most people just want someone to care for them, and your small groups will step up in critical moments if you equip them to do so.
  3. Tell somebody and share the problem. Set aside your pride, and admit that you can’t do it all. Tell someone you trust, and take baby steps to address the problem. Upper levels of management or ministry can be a lonely place. Whether you need to get more sleep or want to start a new exercise regimen, gradually make changes in your like to ensure that you stay refreshed for the longevity of your ministry. It’s ok if you don’t do everything at once.

Quotes from Beth

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CNLP 058: Beth Marshall on How Pastoral Care Grows and Kills Churches and Leaders

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