Episode 569: J.D. Greear on Leading Southern Baptists, How Multiplication is Difficult but Leads to Explosive Church Growth, and the Future of Denominations

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J.D. Greear, Pastor of Summit Church and Former President of the Southern Baptist Convention, talks about leading Southern Baptists, the future of denominations, how church multiplication leads to exponential growth, and how to deal with the tension of losing your best people when you plant churches.

Welcome to Episode 569 of the podcast. Listen and access the show notes below or search for the Carey Nieuwhof Leadership Podcast on Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts and listen for free.

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The Art of Team Leadership

A few weeks ago, I wrote a blog post on burnout in the church. The statistics are quite challenging. Let’s spotlight a few of them:

  1. An astonishing 40% of pastors now show a high risk of burnout. That’s an almost 400% increase since 2015, when that number was just 11%.
  2. Only 22% of pastors said they had any regular support.

We’re nearing a tipping point and because the health of a leader impacts the health of a church, we could see a ripple effect for years to come.

It’s time to stop doing ministry alone.

You are in the unique position to put high-impact leaders—whether that’s staff or volunteers—into roles that support your leadership and your ministry.

My training program, The Art of Team Leadership, will walk you through a step-by-step process for finding and developing better leaders for your ministry and creating a thriving team culture.

It’s time to unleash the potential of a healthy staff and volunteer core so you can watch your ministry grow.

It’s time to end… 

  1. Dreadful meetings with that person 
  2. Toxic people ruining your culture 
  3. Losing your best leaders

And it’s definitely time to stop doing it all yourself and burning out.

From today until May 17th, you can try it out for 30 days for just $17. You have the full 30 days to decide whether it’s a fit for you and your church.

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You know that engagement is crucial for guiding people on their faith journeys. Unfortunately, in today’s world, it can be a fight to stand out from the noise. 

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  1. Texting has a 98% open rate
  2. And response times average 90 seconds
  3. Plus you text every day, so you’re already a pro.

Compare that to a 20% open rate for email, and it’s no wonder thousands of churches are making text a central part of their communication strategy. 

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The Art of Building a Generous Congregation is a proven method for increasing giving, creating a culture of generosity, and building financial margin at your church... without the stress and awkwardness.

Even if you don’t feel comfortable talking about money right now.
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And yes, especially, if you could make a bigger difference by increasing your budget by 20%, 30%, or even 40%.

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Carey Nieuwhof is a best-selling leadership author, speaker, podcaster, former attorney, and church planter. He hosts one of today’s most influential leadership podcasts, and his online content is accessed by leaders over 1.5 million times a month. He speaks to leaders around the world about leadership, change, and personal growth.