CNLP 555: John Mark Comer on The Sabbatical as a Hospital, How Stepping Down from Church Leadership Impacts Identity, The Secret Life of Trees, and Why Attending a Church After You’ve Led One Can Be So Hard

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John Mark Comer returns to the podcast to debrief his year-long Sabbatical after leaving Bridgetown Church as Lead Pastor, how stepping down from day to to day church leadership impacted his identity, why ministry is harder than it needs to be, the secret life of trees, and why attending a church after you’ve led one can be so hard.

Welcome to Episode 555 of the podcast. Listen and access the show notes below or search for the Carey Nieuwhof Leadership Podcast on Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts and listen for free.

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Live No Lies: Recognize and Resist the Three Enemies That Sabotage Your Peace By John Mark Comer

The Ruthless Elimination of Hurry: How to Stay Emotionally Healthy and Spiritually Alive in the Chaos of the Modern World By John Mark Comer

God Has a Name By John Mark Comer

Other Books By John Mark Comer 

CNLP 316: John Mark Comer on Secular Salvation, Post-Christian America and How to Ruthlessly Eliminate Hurry from Your Life

CNLP 440: John Mark Comer on Why We Believe Lies About Freedom, Sex, Truth and Culture, How the Left and the Right Fail, and the Way Forward for the Church

The Hidden Life of Trees: What They Feel, How They Communicate – Discoveries from a Secret World By Peter Wohlleben

CNLP 537: Tyler Staton on the Transition Between John Mark Comer and Him at Bridgetown, 3 Kinds of Biblical Discernment, and Why Prayer is More Important than Sermon Preparation

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Next Episode: Reggie Joiner and Kristen Ivy

Rethink Leadership and Orange Founder Reggie Joiner and President Kristen Ivy talk about what research reveals families are really struggling with, why unchurched people don’t care about your next sermon series, and the tensions of navigating leadership transitions in a rapidly changing world.

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Carey Nieuwhof

Carey Nieuwhof is a best-selling leadership author, speaker, podcaster, former attorney, and church planter. He hosts one of today’s most influential leadership podcasts, and his online content is accessed by leaders over 1.5 million times a month. He speaks to leaders around the world about leadership, change, and personal growth.