CNLP 554: Richard Blackaby on Turning Around a Dying Church, The Story Behind Experiencing God, How to Find God’s Will and How Pastors Can Disciple Business Leaders

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Richard Blackaby has worked with his dad for decades to bring the message of Experiencing God to the world. In this interview, Richard talks about arriving at a small church of ten people and seeing God turn it around, the story behind how Experiencing God went on to sell millions of copies, how to find God’s will, and how pastors can disciple business leaders.

Welcome to Episode 554 of the podcast. Listen and access the show notes below or search for the Carey Nieuwhof Leadership Podcast on Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts and listen for free.

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As a senior pastor, you have a list of questions keeping you up at night. You’re looking for answers to a growing list of new challenges.

The Rethink Leadership Conference wants to answer the questions you walk in with. How are we going to do that?

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2. We’re designing the event for interaction with the speakers and with the other senior leaders attending. You’ll gain insights from every conversation.

3. We’re featuring breakouts giving practical solutions to the church’s most pressing issues today.  

If you have dreams that exceed your current reality; if you have the desire to reach your community; if you’re open to new ways of thinking, make plans now to join me and hundreds of leaders like you who are gathering in Atlanta on April 26-28, 2023 

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Conversation Links

Experiencing God: Knowing and Doing the Will of God By Claude V. King, Henry T. Blackaby, Richard Blackaby 

God in the Marketplace: 45 Questions Fortune 500 Executives Ask About Faith, Life, and Business By Henry Blackaby, Richard Blackaby 

Living Out of the Overflow: Serving Out of Your Intimacy with God By Dr Richard Blackaby

The Seasons of God: How the Shifting Patterns of Your Life Reveal His Purposes for You By Richard Blackaby 

Other Books By Richard Blackaby

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Thriving Church Checklist

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Next Episode: John Mark Comer

John Mark Comer returns to the podcast to debrief his year-long Sabbatical after leaving Bridgetown Church as Lead Pastor, how stepping down from day-to-day church leadership impacted his identity, why ministry is harder than it needs to be, the secret life of trees, and why attending a church after you’ve led one can be so hard.

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Carey Nieuwhof is a best-selling leadership author, speaker, podcaster, former attorney, and church planter. He hosts one of today’s most influential leadership podcasts, and his online content is accessed by leaders over 1.5 million times a month. He speaks to leaders around the world about leadership, change, and personal growth.