CNLP 415: Dave Ferguson on the Future of the Micro-Church, Red Light, Green Light and Yellow Light People, and the Future of Networking

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Dave Ferguson peers into the future to talk about the future of the micro-church, networks and how red light, green light and yellow light thinking will change the future.

Plus, he talks about how to be resilient in the face of constant change and instability.

Welcome to Episode 415 of the podcastListen and access the show notes below or search for the Carey Nieuwhof Leadership Podcast on Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts and listen for free.

Plus, in this episode’s What I’m Thinking About segment, Carey talks about how you can position your organization to do its mission outside the building.


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Insights From Dave

1. In times of crisis, focus on the 5%

There’s no doubt that this year has been an extremely difficult year for most leaders. You’re more exhausted than ever, working longer hours and probably reaching the end of your rope at home.

Some of the best advice Dave has heard this year has been, “In times of crisis, focus on the 5% of things you can control.” Focus on taking care of your health, your sleep and your responsibilities. This will produce far better returns than focusing on the 95% of things you cannot control.

2. Your church’s greatest opportunity online is Monday through Saturday, not Sunday

This last year has caused almost every church to start broadcasting their services online. This is great, but broadcasting services and using your Instagram and Facebook accounts for announcements isn’t enough to have a successful online presence.

If you want to have a thriving online presence, you should intentionally engage your online community Monday through Saturday. If you don’t, don’t expect your online presence to help you reach more people.

3. One difference leaders can make toward racial equality is moving money into a black-owned bank

During the interview, Dave talked about how he and the other churches in his network are helping fight racial inequality. Here’s a really practical thing any church can do for free:

In the U.S., the average net worth of a white family is $170,000, and the average net worth of black families is $17,000. One of the biggest contributing factors to this is home ownership.

So, how are churches responding to this? Dave’s church has moved a portion of their savings from sitting in a white-owned bank to a black-owned bank that is much more likely to lend money to African American families to buy a home.

If you would like to find more information and get some help on how you can do this, Dave and his team have set up a website to help churches.

Quotes from Episode 415

Digital is the new future. Micro is the new future. The thing that stays the same is relationships. @daveferguson Click To Tweet What we have with the internet is an opportunity for churches to be truly platform organizations. @daveferguson Click To Tweet If the restaurants are filling up and the churches aren't filling up, that's a signal to the church that there's a problem here. @daveferguson Click To Tweet In the Western world, we've had a launch large strategy, which costs a lot of money and isn't really very scalable. @daveferguson Click To Tweet Networking is crucial to movement. @daveferguson Click To Tweet We're stuck in certain ruts and we keep going back to those same ruts. We've got to do something to get out of it. @daveferguson Click To Tweet Engagement will be the new church attendance. Click To Tweet As culture changes, so does the paradigm. Click To Tweet In the future, churches that equip Christians will eclipse churches that gather them. Click To Tweet Make your stuff available on demand, and away you go. You'll give your content a much longer life. Click To Tweet

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Carey Nieuwhof is a best-selling leadership author, speaker, podcaster, former attorney, and church planter. He hosts one of today’s most influential leadership podcasts, and his online content is accessed by leaders over 1.5 million times a month. He speaks to leaders around the world about leadership, change, and personal growth.