In July 2020, Andy Stanley made national news when he announced North Point would not reopen until 2021.

In this interview, Andy explains his reasons for the decision, the methodology he uses to find clarity, what he’s learning about preaching to a camera and the hardest part of the pandemic for him personally.

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Plus, in this episode’s What I’m Thinking About segment, Carey talks about 5 things Andy Stanley taught him about team alignment.

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Better Decisions, Fewer Regrets by Andy Stanley

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ChurchPulse Weekly

The Andy Stanley Leadership Podcast

Not In It to Win It—Message Series at North Point Community Church

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CNLP 001: How Andy Stanley Keeps Growing as a Leader, Why North Point Became So Big & More—an Interview with Andy Stanley

The Infinite Game by Simon Sinek

Leaders Eat Last by Simon Sinek

5 Things North Point Has Taught Me About Team Alignment by Carey Nieuwhof

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INSIGHTS FROM ANDY

1. When faced with uncertainty, lead with clarity and humanity

Many leaders freeze when they’re faced with uncertainty. When they do this, their teams become directionless, and they lose all momentum. Andy says that in times of uncertainty, you don’t need to have all the answers, but you do need to clearly communicate a decision. You don’t need to have all the answers, but you do need to be clear about how you’re moving ahead.

You also need to lead with your humanity in times of uncertainty. Andy has to constantly remind himself that his voice and his presence are more important than whatever he is going to say in this season. People need his humanity more than his intellect in this season. Your people need the same from you.

2. If you have crazy ideas, now is the time to try them

With as crazy of a season as we’re living in right now, it seems like almost every leader has done everything they can to preserve the model that has served them for so many years. That response is completely understandable, but it’s also dangerous. For years, churches have been confusing the mission with the method. And now, the pandemic has taken that model away.

This leaves the door wide open for other exploratory methods to thrive in this season. So, if you are a church planter with a crazy idea that you’ve consistently said no to, Andy would say that now is the time to try it out. He predicts that a few of those fresh ideas will begin to eclipse the old model very soon.

3. Now is the time to start over not to return to normal

So many leaders are asking the wrong question right now. Too many leaders are asking, “How do we get back to our pre-COVID ‘normal?’” Andy isn’t asking that question. Andy is asking, “How can we start over and make our church better?” Rather than putting all his focus on getting back to an old model, he’s trying to build a new one.

When you communicate this kind of innovative and fresh thinking with your staff, you will see their engagement increase, as well. It’s always exciting to talk through new ideas with your team. Ask them what their dreams are for your church. Oftentimes, your team’s ideas will be better than yours.

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1 Comment

  1. Chuck Congram on October 21, 2020 at 7:01 am

    The interview with Andy was excellent top to bottom. Most insightful and helpful!!

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