How does your Enneagram type handle stress and uncertainty?
Ian Morgan Cron is back on the podcast to discuss how different leaders process crisis, how to get and stay healthy in the midst of an upside down world, and gives more free therapy to Carey on how to handle his unhealth in times of crisis.
Ian offers some highly practical advise on how to be a much healthier version of yourself in the midst of the crisis, reconstruction and the uncertainty ahead.
Welcome to Episode 342 of the podcast. Listen and access the show notes below or search for the Carey Nieuwhof Leadership Podcast on Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts and listen for free.
Plus, in this episode’s What I’m Thinking About segment, Carey gives his latest thoughts on the COVID-19 crisis and how to respond as leaders.
Pro Media Fire
When I mention names like Netflix, Airbnb, and Uber, what do you think of? They were all part of disruption, and they facilitated major change in their space. There’s a disruption happening right now in the church and digital is disrupting everything. So, if you need a partner that can help you navigate the shift, that is exactly what Pro Media Fire is doing with their Church Growth Program.
The Church Growth Program provides your church with a digital coach, creative team, web team and social team for less than the cost of a staff hire. Your church can have an entire team of professionals, a graphic designer, video editor, web developer, social media expert and digital strategy coach working for you, and all for less than the cost of a staff hire.
Book a free strategy session with Pro Media Fire today at
Financial Peace University
Coronavirus has disrupted our lives. Dave Ramsey, and the folks at Ramsey Solutions are helping so many people make a difference right now, and they’ve got a really cool offer for you.
You can help others by leading a virtual Financial Peace University class. Financial Peace University is the proven plan that has helped nearly 6 million people stop worrying about money, and learn how to pay off debt and save for emergencies. I promise you, I have lived with financial margin, and without it, it is far better to do it with financial margin. It’s totally free to lead, and it’s all done through a video chat like Zoom.
You don’t have to take the class yourself. You don’t have to leave your home. Dave Ramsey and his team handle all the teaching. They give you everything you need to lead with confidence. Also, during the webinar, you’ll also learn how you can get one year free access to Financial Peace and EveryDollar Plus. That’s a value of over $100 in your pocket.
Get one year free access to Financial Peace and EveryDollar Plus when you sign up to lead a Financial Peace University Class
Simply text CAREY to 33789
Text willithrive to 33777 to get access to Carey’s Will I Thrive quiz
3 INSIGHTS FROM IAN
1. We should ask, “What does this make possible?” not “How can we go back?”
When we’re going through difficult times in life, it’s easy to look back at a time before the pain was so real, or the challenge was so big. We long to go back. Ian would encourages us not to. In hard times, he learned from Gail Hyatt to ask the question, “What does this make possible?” Rather than, “How can I go back to the way it was?”
Today, we might be tempted to want to go back to how things were before Coronavirus. That’s a normal feeling, but it won’t help us or our organizations. If we want to thrive, we need to look ahead at what we can do as a result of the crisis, not just what we can’t.
2. There’s a big difference between vulnerability and transparency
During the interview, Carey tells the story of how he thought he was being vulnerable with his small group. After hopping off the call, his wife pointed out that he had just blown off their friends and made it seem like he had it all together. Ian pointed out that Carey was probably being transparent, not vulnerable.
What’s the difference? Vulnerability should make you a bit nervous. Your heart rate will increase, you’ll have a bit of sweat on your upper lip, and you might even feel queasy. Being transparent will feel a lot more calculated. Ian also noted that transparency isn’t a bad thing, it’s just not always the best thing. Don’t tell yourself you’re being vulnerable when you’re actually being transparent.
3. Resist the urge to over manage your team in a crisis
One of the problems for leaders is, in crisis, they tend to over manage and under lead. If anything, we need to do the opposite. We need to let other leaders in our organizations manage the team while we step back and look at the 10,000 ft view. In this crazy time, focus on the meta-level.
While we focus on the meta-level, don’t forget about the human factors of the team. If your personality has been jump-started by the challenges posed by this crisis, remember that not everyone else is energized. Some of the members on our teams are scared or distracted by the crisis. We may need to proceed with grace as we navigate the meta-level decisions.
Quotes from Episode 342
I desire so to conduct the affairs of this administration that if at the end I have lost every other friend on earth, I shall at least have one friend left, and that friend shall be down inside of me. - Abraham Lincoln Click To Tweet
Looking for a key quote? More of a reader?
Read or download a free PDF transcript of this episode here.
ARE YOU POSITIONED TO THRIVE IN THE NEW NORMAL?
The current disruption is showing you how crucial it is to stay flexible as things continue to change.
With ‘normal’ still being elusive, the future belongs to the pivoters.
So…how well positioned are you for future pivots?
My brand new online training, the 30 Day Pivot, will show you how to develop your agility as a leader and as an organization to position yourself for growth.
The 30 Day Pivot is a simple 3-step process you and your team can utilize every as often as every 30 days to respond to the change around you and capitalize on it.
- A simple 3-step process your team can use to arrive at your next pivot in 90 minutes or less.
- An approach that fosters team-generated innovation.
- An implementation and evaluation framework that will help your team move quickly and accurately.
Some organizations and churches will thrive in the new normal.
While the future is uncertain, yours doesn’t have to be.
Subscribe for free and never miss out on wisdom from world-class leaders like Brian Houston, Andy Stanley, Craig Groeschel, Nancy Duarte, Henry Cloud, Patrick Lencioni, Francis Chan, Ann Voskamp, Erwin McManus and many others.
Subscribe using your favorite podcast app via
Spread the Word. Leave a Rating and Review
Hopefully, this episode has helped you lead like never before. That’s my goal. If you appreciated it, could you share the love?
The best way to do that is to rate the podcast on Apple Podcasts and leave us a brief review! You can do the same on Stitcher and on TuneIn as well.
Your ratings and reviews help us place the podcast in front of new leaders and listeners. Your feedback also lets me know how I can better serve you.
Thank you for being so awesome.
Next Episode: Nicky Gumbel
Nicky Gumbel is a former barrister (attorney), pastor of Holy Trinity Brompton, London, one of the largest churches in the UK and pioneer of Alpha, a ministry that’s reached over 20 million people with the Gospel. Nicky explains how and why he changed his mind about church online, why, despite his misgivings, it’s a better evangelism tool than in-person ministry, and how he repositioned his church and Alpha for explosive growth during the pandemic.
Subscribe for free now so you won’t miss Episode 343.