CNLP 297: Gordon MacDonald Shares 8 Decades of Wisdom and Life Lessons, Father Wounds, the Dangers of Drivenness, Counselling a U.S. President, and What Leaders Struggle with Between Ages 32-42 and at Age 48 and Age 62

Share This Post

Gordon MacDonald has written books read by millions, spoken to almost as many and has left a lasting impact on the leadership and heart of several generations.

In this wide-ranging interview, Gordon talks about his own wounds from his father, counseling President Bill Clinton, the dangers of drivenness, and the crisis most leaders go through between ages 32 and 42, and again at ages 48 and 62.

Welcome to Episode 297 of the podcastListen and access the show notes below or search for the Carey Nieuwhof Leadership Podcast on Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts and listen for free.

About Gordon | Books by Gordon MacDonald

Check out this special offer from Pro WebFire for listeners of The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership Podcast. They’re offering a monthly special of 30% off for life, new website every three years, weekly updates and they’ll manage your Facebook, Instagram and YouTube pages. And all you have to do for that is go to ProWebFire.com/Carey.

Remodel Health recognizes the intrinsic value of keeping healthcare costs sustainable without sacrificing the level of care to your faith-based organization. Learn more about their technology-based, innovative solutions by visiting this special link here, and download their church buyer’s guide today for FREE.

Ordering Your Private World by Gordon MacDonald

Ian Morgan Cron’s Enneagram Assessment

Right Path

Leading From Your Strengths

3 Insights from Gordon

1. Every leader has a 25-year timeframe to maximize their giftedness

Once a leader gets to be 60 years old, he/she needs to begin to shift/reinvent themselves. If leaders don’t make this shift, culture passes by them, and their teams and organizations do more questioning than they do following.

For Gordon, this looked like stepping out of senior leadership at the church and finding a new calling from God. At first he was asking God the question, “Do you have a calling for an old man?” God answered in a big way and showed that Gordon’s new calling is to be a father to leaders.

2. What the next generation needs to hear from a father

  1. They need to hear that they are loved and respected.
  2. They need to hear that God has great things for them if they stay on track and follow him.
  3. They need to hear from a father that when they are actively living out their faith, he sees the light of God in them.

Most young men and women will kill to hear things like this from their father.

3. Marriage comes in thirds

  • The first 20 years are the “firsts”
    In your first 20 years of marriage, you and your spouse are doing everything for the first time. First house, first kid, first careers.
  • The next 20 years are the “same”
    In the following 20 years, you are doing the same thing over and over. You write a sermon every week, you go through the same sports with the kids, and you eat at the same restaurants.
  • The last 20 years are the “lasts”
    In the final 20 years, you and your spouse are doing the last of everything. It’s your last time flying, your last time seeing people, and your last time being fully employed.

Quotes from Episode 297

Church is one of the last places anyone would want to repent. Gordon MacDonald Click To Tweet No one ever sins alone. Gordon MacDonald Click To Tweet Community is not only there to bless people in their finest moments, but also to take responsibility when someone fails. Gordon MacDonald Click To Tweet The new generation desperately needs a father. Gordon MacDonald Click To Tweet Questions are the start of almost all ministry. Gordon MacDonald Click To Tweet

Read or Download the Transcript for Episode 297

Looking for a key quote? More of a reader?

Read or download a free PDF transcript of this episode here.

Watch Back Episodes of The Podcast on YouTube

Select episodes of this podcast are now on YouTube. Our new YouTube Channel gives you a chance to watch some episodes, not just listen. We’ll add select episodes to YouTube as time goes on.

Subscribed Yet? 

Subscribe for free and never miss out on wisdom from world-class leaders like Brian Houston, Andy Stanley, Craig Groeschel, Nancy Duarte, Henry Cloud, Patrick Lencioni, Francis Chan, Ann Voskamp, Erwin McManus and many others.

Subscribe using your favorite podcast app via

Apple Podcasts

Spotify

Google Play

Stitcher

TuneIn

Spread the Word. Leave a Rating and Review

Hopefully, this episode has helped you lead like never before. That’s my goal. If you appreciated it, could you share the love?

The best way to do that is to rate the podcast on Apple Podcasts and leave us a brief review! You can do the same on Stitcher and on TuneIn as well.

Your ratings and reviews help us place the podcast in front of new leaders and listeners. Your feedback also lets me know how I can better serve you.

Thank you for being so awesome.

Next Episode: Alejandro Reyes

What makes people stand out online? How do you get noticed in a world that’s so noisy? The foundations of digital marketing are surprising…not because of how trendy they are, but because of how enduring they are. Digital marketing expert and entrepreneur, Alejandro Reyes, talks about what makes companies and individuals grow online and shares lessons he learned from working in a hyper-growth environment of a $100 million dollar startup.

Subscribe for free now and you won’t miss Episode 298.

What’s Stopping Your Church From Growing? 

Over the years, I’ve worked with thousands of church leaders to help them understand the dynamics of church growth.

And here’s what I've learned.

It’s almost never a lack of passion or effort that leads to stagnation, it’s that growing churches are effective at removing the barriers that stand between them and reaching more people.

And that’s exactly why I created The Art of Church Growth course.

By taking a thorough evaluation of your leadership team, volunteer core, missional alignment, and culture, you'll create an action plan to:

  1. Discover and eliminate the barriers that keep your church from growing
  2. Guide your church through transformational conversations that lead to growth and discipleship

While only God can grant growth, you can position your church for it. The best time to do that is now.

Share This Post
Carey Nieuwhof
Carey Nieuwhof

Carey Nieuwhof is a best-selling leadership author, speaker, podcaster, former attorney, and church planter. He hosts one of today’s most influential leadership podcasts, and his online content is accessed by leaders over 1.5 million times a month. He speaks to leaders around the world about leadership, change, and personal growth.

[class^="wpforms-"]
[class^="wpforms-"]
[class^="wpforms-"]
[class^="wpforms-"]
[class^="wpforms-"]
[class^="wpforms-"]
[class^="wpforms-"]
[class^="wpforms-"]
[class^="wpforms-"]
[class^="wpforms-"]
[class^="wpforms-"]
[class^="wpforms-"]
[class^="wpforms-"]
[class^="wpforms-"]
[class^="wpforms-"]
[class^="wpforms-"]
[class^="wpforms-"]
[class^="wpforms-"]
[class^="wpforms-"]
[class^="wpforms-"]
[class^="wpforms-"]
[class^="wpforms-"]
[class^="wpforms-"]
[class^="wpforms-"]