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CNLP 281: Heather Zempel with an Inside Look at Washington DC and Ministry Trends Among Young Adults and Post-Christian Culture

Heather Zempel is a biological engineer who started working as a policy advisor to a US Senator on Capitol Hill in Washington, DC. She now works with Mark Batterson doing ministry on Capitol Hill.

In a wide ranging interview, Heather describes the culture in DC during the 90s and early 2000s and compares it to how it is today. She talks about reaching young adults in the city, developing young leaders, and why she’s rethinking her groups and teaching strategy as DC becomes more and more post-Christian.

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3 Insights from Heather

1. We get stronger when we reach across the aisle and work together with those that we disagree with

One of the biggest things Heather learned while working on Capitol Hill, is that everybody has got an angle when reporting on the American political system. There is a ton of value to be found in knowing what’s really going on and digging deeper into what you’re hearing and learning. Value can be found in hearing out people who disagree with us.

One thing Heather would love to remind all of us is that most of those politicians are good people that genuinely want to make a difference in the world they live in. Most people don’t realize that politicians have spouses and children, too. Regardless of what side of the aisle we are on, we have to be able to give the other side the benefit of the doubt and be able to love them as Christ has called us to.

2. Young leaders are in the room, so stop talking about them and begin working with them

Sometimes we’re afraid that if we let a young leader lead, they’re going to go rogue or go crazy, and then reflect badly on us as a result. Sometimes that’s true, but not always. Heather recommends that older leaders take that risk because somebody took that risk on you. We should never become too big or too important not to take risks on the next generation.

If older leaders begin to take more risks on the young leaders in their organization, that builds trust with those young leaders. Once you build that trust, the young leader will be willing to listen to whatever coaching or feedback you have to give them as their boss. If you never give them opportunities to fail, they will never be able to learn from their own failures.

3. If you want community, aim for service, purpose, and mission – Community will follow

Community is one of those elusive things that when you try to aim for it, you don’t often get it. But if you aim for something different, community comes as part of the package. The old method for building community was meeting with people face to face and then bringing them into a small group. This still works, but Heather and Carey are noticing a trend.

Both Heather and Carey are both beginning to notice that building community around something that is shoulder-to-shoulder (like serving) is actually leading to more powerful and sustaining transformation in the long run. Over the last 5 years, Carey has begun to notice that some of the best pockets of community in the church have formed around where people volunteer rather than what group they attend.

Quotes from Episode 281

The young leaders are in the room now. We need to let them talk about themselves. @heatherzempel Click To Tweet

What most people are craving for is not necessarily teach me what to think, but teach me how to think. @heatherzempel Click To Tweet

Don't trade what you want 20 years from now for what you want right now in the moment. @heatherzempel Click To Tweet

One thing people don't know is that DC is largely run by 20-somethings. @heatherzempel Click To Tweet

The church does, for the most part, a really good job with those who are down and out, but we often forget that there are people up and out. @cnieuwhof Click To Tweet

What you've got to focus on in your 20s is developing the character that you're going to need to sustain the calling that God's placed on your life. @heatherzempel Click To Tweet

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4 Comments

  1. Adrian Peel on August 2, 2019 at 1:21 pm

    The desire for biblical literacy is very real in my circle of young adults. Biblical literacy is one of three pillars of our ministry focus. Interesting conversation. Thanks.

  2. vaughn on August 1, 2019 at 9:38 am

    Great stuff! Maybe the show is Designated Survivor w/ Kiefer Sutherland?

  3. Ishola Olusola on August 1, 2019 at 9:02 am

    God bless your ministry

  4. Bekele on August 1, 2019 at 4:16 am

    Interesting!

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