CNLP 191: Christine Caine on Betrayal, Chaos and How to Still Trust God When You Don’t Understand Why Things Are Going The Way They’re Going

In a moving and personal interview, Christine Caine talks about how a deep personal betrayal a few years ago almost led her to leave ministry, and how cancer, chaos and all the things you can’t control can still be leveraged when you’re in leadership.

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3 Insights from This Episode

1. Leaders aren’t exempt from suffering

Why do we as leaders think God has betrayed us when things are going wrong? Probably because we have an unrealistic expectation of God and often believe the lie that we should be exempt from suffering. Jesus didn’t say if trials come; He said when.

We live in a fallen world. It’s crucial that when trials come our way, we look at them through a lens of faith. Fight from a place of victory and not from a place of defeat. God is sovereign and on our side. Not everything that happens is good, but our God is.

2. One of the greatest challenges for leaders is control 

When unexpected things happen, our trust in God has to be bigger than our need to control our circumstances. Our greatest struggles as leaders are internal – dealing with discouragements and disappointments. We can’t allow the enemy to steal our courage when we feel covered in the darkness. In those moments, what you truly believe at your core is revealed inside of you. You’ll find out if you are trying to control your life with an unrealistic expectation of God or if you really do trust in Him.

You may find that your hurt is actually an unexpected invitation from God into a greater level of intimacy with Him. Feeling incredible levels of pain can deepen your ministry. After you’ve been broken, your empathy and sensitivity increases and you can better relate to others when they are in the thick of their worst challenges.

3. You don’t have to compartmentalize the different roles in your life

Christine wears a lot of hats. Her advice for getting it all done? Don’t compartmentalize responsibilities. Instead, remember that everything you do is interconnected. She views her life as a wheel with many spokes all around it and Jesus at the hub. As long as everything is well oiled in God’s anointing, that wheel is spinning the way it should. When something’s off, it’s time to find rest and strength in Jesus back at the hub of the wheel. So, rather than aiming to be a Superman or a Superwoman, find your strength in the supernatural realm of the Holy Spirit.

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1 Comment

  1. Jeannette on May 24, 2018 at 12:54 pm

    Such a great episode as are all your others but this one spoke volumes to me as my Propel chapter was just discussing so many of the topics brought up during the interview. Thank you for always having great, relevant and empowering content on your podcast!!

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