CNLP 153: Clay Scroggins on How to Lead When You’re Not in Charge

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One of the greatest myths of leadership is that you have to be in charge in order to lead.

Clay Scroggins talks about how to cultivate influence and gain authority when you’re not the senior leader. It’s possible, even when you’re young. Ask Clay, he’s doing it under Andy Stanley.

Welcome to Episode 153 of the podcast.

Clay’s website

Clay’s book How to Lead When You’re Not in Charge

Clay on Twitter

Clay on Instagram

Clay on Facebook 

Clay on Episode 35

3 Insights from This Episode

1. The Myth of Authority:  When I’m in charge I’ll be able to lead

Many assume influence isn’t attainable without the big title.  They quietly take the back seat waiting for a higher position to give them authority.  But the truth is whether you’re in charge or not, you can have influence.  Don’t waste time waiting.  From whatever seat you’re in, find the power to lead without the title you think you need.  The sooner that happens, the sooner you can tap into having influence in all aspects of your life.

2. Control – we all want it, but none of us really have it

The #1 frustration for leaders who aren’t in charge is control.  We all want the security of owning our decisions without others calling the shots.  We want our great ideas to be heard and when they’re not it’s defeating.  We assume things are different for the ones on top – those bosses who have the final say – but they don’t really have control either.  There’s always someone to answer to no matter where you are on the ladder.

When you don’t feel heard or when you aren’t passionate about the direction a project, series or campaign is going – don’t passively bow out.  Take the opportunity to lean in and make it better with your influence.  Great leaders know it’s not always the best idea that works, but the best team working together makes all the difference.

3. Start gaining influence now so you’re ready to take the lead tomorrow

Not getting invited to the meetings you want?  Wish you were asked to take the lead on that big project?  You have the power to cultivate influence beyond your authority.  Here’s where to start.

  1. Know what needs to change in you so you can grow – Don’t shy away from some deep self-evaluation and take the time to ask others how you can perform better.
  2. Attitude is Everything – It’s not a personality trait, it’s a decision you make.  Your team needs your energy and attitude more than they need your education and talent.
  3. Be reliable – do what you said you were going to do when you said you were going to do it.  Trust is like gold.

You may not be invited to that meeting yet, but you can prepare yourself today for the invitation.  Whatever responsibility you have, own it and be amazing at it.  Others will take notice and doors will open.

Quotes from This Episode

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Next Episode: Todd Fields

For over 20 years, Todd Fields has led worship leaders at North Point Church in Atlanta at their campuses, and more recently helped worship leaders around the world get better at their craft.. Todd talks about the constant change in worship, working with Andy Stanley and Louie Giglio and offers advice to senior pastors and worship leaders on the future of worship.

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Carey Nieuwhof is a best-selling leadership author, speaker, podcaster, former attorney, and church planter. He hosts one of today’s most influential leadership podcasts, and his online content is accessed by leaders over 1.5 million times a month. He speaks to leaders around the world about leadership, change, and personal growth.