Episode 808: Why Leadership Is Designed to Kill You: Nicole Martin on Leading Christianity Today in a Divided, Rapidly Changing World

Nicole Martin made history as Christianity Today’s first Black female CEO — and took the hits that come with it. In this conversation: the backlash, Billy Graham’s original vision, how the magazine is advancing and speaking into a polarized world, and why leadership is designed to kill you.

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