Having dreams is easy. Keeping dreams alive is difficult, especially in the face of rejection and disappointment.
What do you do when your book proposal gets rejected, your church isn’t growing as fast as you think it should and your life, though good, isn’t happening the way you hoped?
Pastor and author, Josh Gagnon, talks about his experience of rejection and disappointment, what’s he’s learned and how to keep your dream alive when you’re facing setbacks.
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3 Insights from Josh
1. Most people are living in a skeleton of a dream they once had
Growing up, we all had dreams. Whether it was to be an astronaut, a police officer, or an artist, we all dreamed of something. As we mature, our dreams can become reality, but sadly they don’t for most people. Josh realized that because of the many discouragements and struggles that come while we chase our dreams, many people abandon them.
Now, when he drives down the street, he sees people living lives that are a shell of what their dreams used to be. They are ignoring, stifling, or fighting against the burning passion inside of them for whatever those early dreams were.
2. We quit on dreams because we see the end, but don’t want to endure the journey
According to Josh, when God gives us a dream, he shows us the end goal of a journey. So when we start to chase after those dreams, our lives look nothing like the end goal for most of the journey. The journey to the dream is hard and it’s discouraging.
Most people quit on their dreams because they go through this discouragement and can’t/won’t endure that pain any longer. With his book, Josh is hoping to show everyone why they have reason to dream again. The world will be a better place because of the God-given dream that we chase after today.
3. There’s a connection between our prayer life and our dream life
One trend that has happened over and over in Josh’s life is that as his prayer life dwindles, he has noticed his dream life dwindles with it. The moment we start believing that there are not better days ahead, is the moment that we quit dreaming and believing God to do truly miraculous things in our lives.
What happens is our prayer life goes from, “God, fill this room,” to, “God, could you get at least 1 guest to show up today?” Or “God, could you do the impossible?” to “God, just do a little bit better than last year.” When this happens, we begin to have a dream problem, because we’re never going to pray big bold prayers if we’ve given up on the dreams of our future and the hopes of our future.
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