CNLP 320: Toni Nieuwhof and Dr. Rob Meeder: A Pediatrician and Lawyer Talk About the Reasons for the Rise in Childhood Anxiety, Beating Tech Addiction in Kids and Best Practices for a Thriving Marriage in a Busy Home

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Pediatrician Rob Meeder and Toni Nieuwhof—a pharmacist, lawyer and host Carey Nieuwhof’s wife,—join Carey to talk about the reasons behind the recent rise in childhood anxiety, how tech addiction is impacting children and parents and some best practices for keeping your busy family healthy.

Toni and Rob are also hosts of a brand new podcast, The Smart Family Podcast where they interview world-class experts about issues facing parents, children and families.

Welcome to Episode 320 of the podcastListen and access the show notes below or search for the Carey Nieuwhof Leadership Podcast on Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts and listen for free.

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3 Insights from Toni and Rob

1. Kids are heavily affected by conflict between parents

Whether it was in Toni’s practice in divorce law, or in Rob’s pediatrics office, it was pretty easy to tell if a couple was having conflict over/about their kids. Rob could tell by how the child responded in the presence of each child, and Toni could tell by how the parents argued.

In those moments of conflict, the child will say whatever he/she thinks the parent wants to hear. These children are stressed out, anxious, and often find other ways to cope. When going through a divorce, it is almost impossible for parents to shield their kids from the animosity caused by the separation.

2. We can’t “rip off the band-aid” with technology

If you ask parents what the biggest point of tension they have with their kids in 2020 is, they will almost universally answer “screen time.” This doesn’t surprise Rob at all, as it is one of the primary issues that parents bring up in his office. He even has some patients who are unable to pull themselves away from the screen long enough for a doctor’s appointment.

So how do we, as adults, help kids understand the dangers that come with technology? And what boundaries should we put in place? Rob is hesitant to give a hard and fast recommendation, but he is willing to say that kids under age 5 should be limited to less than 30 minutes of screen time a day. As for older kids, you will need to try to limit the amount of time spent of them for entertainment purposes. You will have to allow them to do their homework on their devices outside of entertainment time.

3. You need to invest in your marriage before you invest in your kids

One fact that ends up surprising many couples is that you will have more time alone with your spouse than you will with your kids. If you want your marriage to survive, you need to invest serious time, money, and energy into loving your spouse in a healthy way.

One way that Rob and Rose do this is by getting away together without the kids 3-4 times a year. This helps them work on their marriage, and has allowed them to keep up common interests. Carey and Toni tried to do the same thing once a year, but wish they could have done it more.

Quotes from Episode 320

Anxiety is now more common than it was during the depression and world wars. - Dr. Rob Meeder Click To Tweet 'A young child will often tell each parent what they think that parent wants to hear, even if it's completely contradictory. - Toni Nieuwhof Click To Tweet There was a sharp uptick in anxiety and depression when the iPhone was introduced. - Dr. Rob Meeder Click To Tweet Toddlers and babies don't need screens at all. - Dr. Rob Meeder Click To Tweet Over the last four or five years, I would say that mental health issues, especially in that school age and teenage years, seem to be increasing. - Dr. Rob Meeder Click To Tweet Our phones stay outside the bedroom when they're being charged. - Dr. Rob Meeder Click To Tweet You've got to emotionally connect before you can redirect. - Dr. Rob Meeder Click To Tweet You are you inside your marriage, and you are you when you leave the marriage. So you can't leave you. - Toni Nieuwhof Click To Tweet Sleep, diet, and exercise—those are what I call the three no brainers of mental health. - Dr. Rob Meeder Click To Tweet

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Carey Nieuwhof

Carey Nieuwhof is a best-selling leadership author, speaker, podcaster, former attorney, and church planter. He hosts one of today’s most influential leadership podcasts, and his online content is accessed by leaders over 1.5 million times a month. He speaks to leaders around the world about leadership, change, and personal growth.